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- Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:35 pm
- Forum: Pole Vault - Advanced Technique
- Topic: Lavillenie vs Bubka
- Replies: 109
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Re: Lavillenie vs Bubka
If you look at Bubka's body postioning at the moment of takeoff his top arm is typically only bent back 16 degrees from vertical and his takeoff leg is only bent back 22 degrees from vertical.This indicative of his emphasis on developing upward movement at takeoff. In addition this causes him to gai...
- Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:37 pm
- Forum: Pole Vault - Advanced Technique
- Topic: Lavillenie vs Bubka
- Replies: 109
- Views: 174318
Re: Lavillenie vs Bubka
As I've said due to technical difficulties I have not been able to post the long form of my new article, which caompares the takeoff technique of Lav. and Bubka. I'm posting a brief summary of the key points here. More specific details will be answered on request. The free-takeoff, which is advocate...
- Sun Feb 16, 2014 2:46 pm
- Forum: Pole Vault - Advanced Technique
- Topic: Lavillenie vs Bubka
- Replies: 109
- Views: 174318
Re: Lavillenie vs Bubka
Further thoughts: For many years I also become conivinced that the vaulter should takeoff out and use a free-takeoff. Then several years ago out of curiosity I happened to start examining the takeoff points of dozens of elite vaulters I have on video. To my suprise the great majority of them took of...
- Sun Feb 16, 2014 1:58 pm
- Forum: Pole Vault - Advanced Technique
- Topic: Lavillenie vs Bubka
- Replies: 109
- Views: 174318
Re: Lavillenie vs Bubka
Kirk, Giving you the benifit of the doubt, even scientists often disagree about their theories. For instance In the 1980 ed of the M. of the PV Ganslen sights a study which concluded that taking off under INCREASED TAKEOFF VELOCITY ( see page 21 ). I do not put much stock in these studies because th...
- Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:02 pm
- Forum: Pole Vault - Advanced Technique
- Topic: Lavillenie vs Bubka
- Replies: 109
- Views: 174318
Re: Lavillenie vs Bubka
More thoughts: It might suprise some people to know that I'm a big fan of Bjorn Otto. Tecnically he is what I would call a B/P model variant. That is he displays many of the characteristics of the B/P model but also has some important technical differences ( most noteably he takes off under ). Otto ...
- Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:16 pm
- Forum: Pole Vault - Advanced Technique
- Topic: Lavillenie vs Bubka
- Replies: 109
- Views: 174318
Re: Lavillenie vs Bubka
Kirk, I'm not saying that Lav.'s technique is ideal , which is what you and the other B/P advocates have been claiming and I have been arguing against. I'm just saying given all the facts you have to conclude that Lav.s technique is superior to Bubka's IF YOU ARE OJECTIVE. Futher,I do not believe in...
- Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:31 pm
- Forum: Pole Vault - Advanced Technique
- Topic: Lavillenie vs Bubka
- Replies: 109
- Views: 174318
Re: Lavillenie vs Bubka
Well, I don't see how it can be disputed now that Lav.'s technique is superior to Bubka's. I hope people will start looking at the tecnique of the vault with a more open mind now. In response to Kirk, it is my view that technically Lav. represents a whole new paradigm in the vault relative to Bubka ...
- Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:34 pm
- Forum: Pole Vault - Advanced Technique
- Topic: Lavillenie vs Bubka
- Replies: 109
- Views: 174318
Re: Lavillenie vs Bubka
To PV Dweeb: Pretty good concise summary of my thinking. Although I would add that what Bubka does so well technically is his abilty to generate lift by his actions on the pole during the vault. This is similar to what the old rigid vaulters did using some what different techniques. Lavillenie explo...
- Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:54 pm
- Forum: Pole Vault - Advanced Technique
- Topic: Lavillenie vs Bubka
- Replies: 109
- Views: 174318
Re: Lavillenie vs Bubka
To Coach Eric: To be fair I went into more details about the differnces in the takeoff between B and L than the takeoff angle ( which I didn't actually mention ). There are many more important and obvious differences in technique between these 2 vaulters: rate of acceleration on the runway, handspre...
- Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:10 pm
- Forum: Pole Vault - Advanced Technique
- Topic: Lavillenie vs Bubka
- Replies: 109
- Views: 174318
Re: Lavillenie vs Bubka
Thanks PV Dweeb for the D'encause posts. Even if they have been posted before they are germain to my post and confirm my speculations about his coaching. I'm not sure if Launder is refering to me as a theorist. If he is my reply is I have been vaulting for over 50 yrs. I ahieved world class status i...
- Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:28 pm
- Forum: Pole Vault - Advanced Technique
- Topic: Lavillenie vs Bubka
- Replies: 109
- Views: 174318
Re: Lavillenie vs Bubka
In response to PV Junkie, Yes several other vaulters besides Bubka have had a season as good or nearly as good as Renaud's was last year (Tarasov, Lukyanenko, Mack, Stevenson and Hartwig to name a few ). But the point I was trying to make is that Renaud's marks this year certainly didn't come out of...
- Mon Feb 10, 2014 5:36 pm
- Forum: Pole Vault - Advanced Technique
- Topic: Lavillenie vs Bubka
- Replies: 109
- Views: 174318
Re: Lavillenie vs Bubka
In response to Kirk's post: To start off I completely disagree that Renaud is doing something different this year vs the past. Keep in mind that he had a 6.07m vault last year that was ruled a miss on a technicality. He also had a fantastic season last year clearing 5.92 or better 9 times and 5.80 o...