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It is here I have to say, pole rotation doesn't energize the system or vaulter in any way. Will are you also saying that the rotating pole has no impact on the direction of the swing and more specifically that the vaulter does not have the abillity to make adjustments on their swing that would resu...

How is it possible he could swing so low what appears an almost delayed low glide and yet still cover that pole with ease and in plenty time? I have full describes how I feel he accomplishes that by taking full advantage of the gravity vector and of equal importance by taking making much better use...

Will, if you don't want to use the damn term "Centrifugal" to describe that force that the bending, but more specifically rotating pole applies to the vaulter and its impact on his swing depending with how the vaulter utilizes it than call it what ever you damn well like use it in place o...

Joe, "Centrifugal" is, where physics is concerned, not real and thus where the pole vault is concerned an almost meaningless term. The pole supports the vaulter in the air. That is all. You need to let go of that term and idea where the poles rotation is concerned. And so, you used it agai...

Will, From the moment a vaulters foot leaves the ground the pole begins to lean to,rotate to and a bend in the opposite direction of the vaulters top hand. This applies a force to the vaulter and effects his swing path. If this force were not present the vaulters orbit about its axis would continue...

Since the pole isn't even anchored in the box, you haven't even the chance to see any of this. I understood all but this last sentence. What do you mean here? :dazed: Kirk Ever been fooling around with a short straight pole and as you progress through the vault you and it fly out of the box? IF it ...

I respectfully disagree with your assessment of airstrike will and how I believe Lavillenie does a better job of utilizing the centrifugal forces of the poles Natural elemental rotation and uncoiling then Bubka does Will, and I believe there is a great deal to learn from it. I believe the answer to...

ALL of my analysis is POSTERIOR. I analyze vaults and form that have happened.* What I am doing differently is describing WHY certain elements of the vault that have been intuitively known work by the principles of physics. Generally ones that have lowered the CoM during the post take off like the d...

Do you agree that Lavellenie does a better job of not fighting the poles elemental rotation better than Bubka? I don't know that I can say as I don't exactly know what we would be talking about here. I have no idea how you see Bubka "fighting" the poles elemental rotation. I have read you...

The angle of the pole in its rotation about the box and the angle of the vaulter to the gravity vector are not tied, but are independent. This is why you can use both the PB Model in take off and then post take off adopt a more Lavillenie/GRV swing orientation. This is where I note that while Dossev...

Thanks for your explanation of the gravity vector . I haven't read your links thoroughly yet, so I'll have to read more before I truly understand (sorry for being so slow). But if I didn't understand what you meant by gravity vector then I'm sure that many others didn't understand either. And there...

The timing and rate of the swing angle and its necessary relation to the CoM and gravity vector and thus that vector's effect on the compression and chord shortening of the pole are crucial to the vault. The more that the vaulter can delay the movement of the CoM forward, the more they can have the...