Kirk,
After some thought I think the tuck/shoot should be renamed the delay/shoot. What do you think?
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- Mon Jul 01, 2013 8:03 pm
- Forum: Pole Vault - Advanced Technique
- Topic: ideal technique in the fiberglass vault
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- Mon Jul 01, 2013 7:01 pm
- Forum: Pole Vault - Advanced Technique
- Topic: ideal technique in the fiberglass vault
- Replies: 89
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Re: ideal technique in the fiberglass vault
Kirk, I basically agree with your point on tuck/shoot ,but , correct me if I'm wrong, even Hartwig didn't delay all the time. Also it is possible to delay at the end of a "piking " r-b action. I experimented with this idea in high school, but gave it up because I got inferior results. In t...
- Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:46 pm
- Forum: Pole Vault - Advanced Technique
- Topic: ideal technique in the fiberglass vault
- Replies: 89
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Re: ideal technique in the fiberglass vault
dj, I assume that what you are saying is that if the vaulter executes a free-take off his/her take off velocity will be greater. I have already discussed this point with pvstudent but will do so again here. Note, I don't see how it is possibble to discuss the free-take off without considering the va...
- Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:56 am
- Forum: Pole Vault - Advanced Technique
- Topic: ideal technique in the fiberglass vault
- Replies: 89
- Views: 68552
Re: ideal technique in the fiberglass vault
Pvstudent,
I would like to know the scientific explaination behind your view that the free take-off is ideal. Also, even if it is granted it is ideal, why it should be imposed on vaulters who instincts are to not use a free take-off?
I would like to know the scientific explaination behind your view that the free take-off is ideal. Also, even if it is granted it is ideal, why it should be imposed on vaulters who instincts are to not use a free take-off?
- Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:38 am
- Forum: Pole Vault - Advanced Technique
- Topic: ideal technique in the fiberglass vault
- Replies: 89
- Views: 68552
Re: ideal technique in the fiberglass vault
Kirk, The 1st thing that has to be done is to agree on a definition of the term tuck/shoot. It is my observation that vaulters with a tight tuck can complete the r-b in different ways. For instance, the tuck may blend into a piking action at its completion. Good examples are Manson, Buller, Gibilisc...
- Sat Jun 29, 2013 10:31 pm
- Forum: Pole Vault - Advanced Technique
- Topic: ideal technique in the fiberglass vault
- Replies: 89
- Views: 68552
Re: ideal technique in the fiberglass vault
Kirk, I believe that the fundimental principle behind all proficient vaulting, regardless of the type of pole used, is that the vaulter must strive to convert the forward linear momentum of the run into vertical momentum using his/her actions during the execution of the vault. In proficient fg. vaul...
- Sat Jun 29, 2013 10:01 pm
- Forum: Pole Vault - Advanced Technique
- Topic: ideal technique in the fiberglass vault
- Replies: 89
- Views: 68552
Re: ideal technique in the fiberglass vault
pvstudent, I don't think I can give you an answer that is going to satisfy you. But I'll try again. Based on my studies, I have concluded that there is no advantage to any specfic take off point as long as the take off point is within "functional " limits. It is my experience that most vau...
- Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:38 pm
- Forum: Pole Vault - Advanced Technique
- Topic: ideal technique in the fiberglass vault
- Replies: 89
- Views: 68552
Re: ideal technique in the fiberglass vault
Kirk, I agree with everything you are saying. Whatever the style the vaulter should strive to constantly keep moving through the vault with no stopping and starting at any point in the vault. I have found a fair amount of anecdotal evidence that even vaulters who have alot of dramatic changes in pos...
- Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:05 pm
- Forum: Pole Vault - Advanced Technique
- Topic: Renaud Lavillenie
- Replies: 8
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Re: Renaud Lavillenie
VaultDawng, I suggest that you read my post on Ideal technique in the fg. pv. Did the thought ever occur to you that just maybe Bubka's technique was not the closest to ideal? That just maybe Lavillenie's technique is at least in some respects superior to Bubka's. What will be the opinion on this if...
- Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:45 pm
- Forum: Pole Vault - Advanced Technique
- Topic: ideal technique in the fiberglass vault
- Replies: 89
- Views: 68552
Re: ideal technique in the fiberglass vault
Walrus , My sister has worked in a scientific lab for many years and has a back ground in chemistry ( although she doesn't have an ivy league degree ). She had a difficult time understading my arguement at first but was eventually persuaded I was correct ( rightly or wrongly ). It is perplexing to m...
- Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:22 pm
- Forum: Pole Vault - Advanced Technique
- Topic: ideal technique in the fiberglass vault
- Replies: 89
- Views: 68552
Re: ideal technique in the fiberglass vault
Kirk, My computer is acting up again and am having to post things twice. My post to Walrus disappeared , typed it again and now the same thing is posted twice. So if the same 2 posts show up to you, you know why. I respectfully disagree that fg. vaulters rotate about the top hand during the swing. I...
- Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:16 pm
- Forum: Pole Vault - Advanced Technique
- Topic: ideal technique in the fiberglass vault
- Replies: 89
- Views: 68552
Re: ideal technique in the fiberglass vault
Walrus, Although I'm not a professional scientist, I have read a great deal about the subject ( I'm an autodidact ), which you apparently have not. So I know what I'm talking about whether you or anybody else will recognize the fact. Your emotional reaction to my last post is typically unscientific....