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Unread postby VaultFreak » Fri Oct 25, 2002 12:24 am

Hey, we're pretty good! :D
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Unread postby Azbeachboy1 » Fri Oct 25, 2002 12:26 am

PVCoach wrote:Pretty good numbers, but SC had 4 over 15'. I know because they have all jumped with our www.CarolinaExtreme.com track club in the past. How does that change your numbers?

Is it SC #1 and AZ #2 in 15 footers?

If so that makes us #1 in 15' and 16' by participants.
I got my reults from dyestat, so if he the 4th guy didnt get his 15 in a big meet then it doesnt count but if he did, then I guess dyestat just didnt record his meet results.
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Unread postby zack » Fri Oct 25, 2002 12:36 am

Actually WA should have 3 over 16' and 7 over 15'.

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Unread postby PVCoach » Fri Oct 25, 2002 12:37 am

I wouldn't bet on Dyestat. They're usually pretty acurate but I've seen them leave a lot of male and female vaulters out.

Every one of our 15 footers did it multiple times in big and small meets. Mitch Greeley 4 or 5 times (15' 6" PR), Trey Bell (15' 8" PR) jumped 15' like clockwork, Mark Johnson (16' 4" PR) I only saw him clear under 15' twice in the last two years. Chase Shealy (16' 8" PR) cleared a total of about twenty bars over 16' this year...

...but I could be wrong since Dyestat says we have only 3 over 15'. LOL
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Unread postby PVCoach » Fri Oct 25, 2002 12:45 am

The difference may be in how you view the numbers. If someone jumps 16' then include them in 15' total and 16' total. That's why I was saying before if you take out Tyson Biars it changes WA #'s dramatically, because he was a 15', 16' and 17' vaulter. If you take him back just a few inches under 17' then WA and SC are identical in your other comparison.

Just food for thought. Like the old saying goes... "Figures lie and lyers figure." We can make the numbers say anything we want.
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Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Fri Oct 25, 2002 12:50 am

I worked for Dyestat last year... they do leave out marks... but not on purpose! You guys gotta send stuff in to them that you know about :) Mr. Dye relies a lot on results and marks people send in. If someone does something in a big meet he'll probably get it... but if he never sees the results for the meet he's not gonna know about it.

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WOW! Check out the top vaulters to track participants ratio

Unread postby PVCoach » Fri Oct 25, 2002 9:32 am

Comparing just the 5 states that total male track participants were given to us on. AZ 6,440; CA 40,843; SC 6,467; TX 78, 758; WA 11,336, OR 8,001.

Vaulters over 17'
#1 OR (1) 1 in 8,001
#2 WA (1) 1 in 11,336
#3 CA (1) 1 in 40,843
#4 TX (1) 1 in 78,758

Vaulters over 16'
#1 SC (2) 1 in 3,233
#2 WA (3) 1 in 3,778
#3 CA (10) 1 in 4,084
#4 AZ (1) 1 in 6, 440
#5 OR (1) 1 in 8,001
#6 TX (2) 1 in 39,379

Vaulters over 15'
#1 AZ (4) 1 in 1,610
#2 SC (4) 1 in 1,617
#3 WA (7) 1 in 1,619
#4 CA (23) 1 in 1,775
#5 OR (3) 1 in 2,667
#6 TX (15) 1 in 5, 250

:eek: Very enlightening! It will be interesting to do this again after 2003 season.
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Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Fri Oct 25, 2002 11:43 am

Nice work! :yes:

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Unread postby wacky274 » Fri Oct 25, 2002 2:06 pm

yeah, just wait, after this season, arizona will definetely be up there for at least 16 footers.. if not 17 footers...i think everyone will be pleasantly surprised by arizonas performances this year
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Unread postby VaultFreak » Sun Oct 27, 2002 2:55 pm

Don't worry Brandon, we'll be proud of you. lol :P
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Unread postby wacky274 » Sun Oct 27, 2002 7:55 pm

not just for me, i'm betting steven will pop out something big, he always manages to have at least one meet where he jumps really high (not that he doesnt do it more often, he just gets hurt....at least tht was the case last season..that and his focus kinda went away)
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Unread postby PVCoach » Sun Oct 27, 2002 8:11 pm

New updated numbers on our survey of top HS vault states. We've got the numbers on Oregon. Oregon deserves to be mentioned. It's a great vault state.

Now comparing 6 states that total male track participants were given to us on. AZ 6,440; CA 40,843; SC 6,467; TX 78, 758; WA 11,336; OR 8,001.

Vaulters over 17'
#1 OR (1) 1 in 8,001
#2 WA (1) 1 in 11,336
#3 CA (1) 1 in 40,843
#4 TX (1) 1 in 78,758

Vaulters over 16'
#1 SC (2) 1 in 3,233
#2 WA (3) 1 in 3,778
#3 CA (10) 1 in 4,084
#4 AZ (1) 1 in 6, 440
#5 OR (1) 1 in 8,001
#6 TX (2) 1 in 39,379

Vaulters over 15'
#1 AZ (4) 1 in 1,610
#2 SC (4) 1 in 1,617
#3 WA (7) 1 in 1,619
#4 CA (23) 1 in 1,775
#5 OR (3) 1 in 2,667
#6 TX (15) 1 in 5, 250
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