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DQ in pole vault at NAIAs?
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 2:32 am
by rainbowgirl28
-- Paxton, Johnathan FR Bacone DQ illegal assistance
4.50 4.65 4.80 4.95
O XXO XXO XXX
???
What would this be? If it was volzing they should have just flagged that particular jump as a miss.
I am sure his coach wasn't down there tapping him.
Was he watching video or talking on a cell phone?
Re: DQ in pole vault at NAIAs?
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 3:04 am
by KirkB
In my day, it was technically illegal for a coach to shout instructions to a vaulter - even if the coach was in the stands. To my knowledge, this was never enforced except in the Olympics, but it was a rule nonetheless.
Is that rule still in force? Could that be the reason for the DQ?
Kirk
Re: DQ in pole vault at NAIAs?
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 5:52 am
by dj
hey
kirk i don't believe the 'coaching' rule is in effect... i did get yellow carded at a meet in the 80's for coaching my high jumper.. i thought it was funny since i was "outside" the area ... but they said my jumper would get diqualified..
i had 3 simple hand signals i used with tully ... but they would card you for those if they caulght you.. untill the rule cahnged..
it may be that the athlete was using his cell phone as a camera.. or viewing a movie of his vaults between jumps...
another team may have reported it.. and he was DQ'ed after the fact..
just a thought
dj
Re: DQ in pole vault at NAIAs?
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:40 am
by vaultman18
rainbowgirl28 wrote:-- Paxton, Johnathan FR Bacone DQ illegal assistance
4.50 4.65 4.80 4.95
O XXO XXO XXX
???
What would this be? If it was volzing they should have just flagged that particular jump as a miss.
I am sure his coach wasn't down there tapping him.
Was he watching video or talking on a cell phone?
I worked the event and I remember this jumper but I did not know he was DQ'ed. I kept the clipboard to backup the palm pilot and we did not DQ anyone. I will try to find out what happened.
Re: DQ in pole vault at NAIAs?
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 1:39 pm
by rainbowgirl28
vaultman18 wrote:
I worked the event and I remember this jumper but I did not know he was DQ'ed. I kept the clipboard to backup the palm pilot and we did not DQ anyone. I will try to find out what happened.
Thanks! It's kind of a big deal. He would have placed 5th and I believe was the only athlete from his school in the entire meet.
Re: DQ in pole vault at NAIAs?
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 1:39 pm
by rainbowgirl28
KirkB wrote:In my day, it was technically illegal for a coach to shout instructions to a vaulter - even if the coach was in the stands. To my knowledge, this was never enforced except in the Olympics, but it was a rule nonetheless.
Is that rule still in force? Could that be the reason for the DQ?
Kirk
No.
Re: DQ in pole vault at NAIAs?
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 4:22 pm
by VaultPurple
would holding bar up with hands be illegal assistance? Thats all i can think of besides eletronics... maybe he was listening to his ipod
Re: DQ in pole vault at NAIAs?
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 4:50 pm
by rainbowgirl28
VaultPurple wrote:would holding bar up with hands be illegal assistance? Thats all i can think of besides eletronics... maybe he was listening to his ipod
Like I said above, that would have been called a miss at the time of the jump, not after the fact.
Re: DQ in pole vault at NAIAs?
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:36 pm
by vaultman18
The DQ was for watching video. Apparently some coaches turned another coach in for showing the athlete video. And was caught by the referee. I did not see this happen so I am puzzled by the whole thing. And I was never notified of the infraction. The only thing I can think is it took place after the athlete was out and it violated the electronic device rule. But I am not sure.
Re: DQ in pole vault at NAIAs?
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:42 pm
by rainbowgirl28
vaultman18 wrote:The DQ was for watching video. Apparently some coaches turned another coach in for showing the athlete video. And was caught by the referee. I did not see this happen so I am puzzled by the whole thing. And I was never notified of the infraction. The only thing I can think is it took place after the athlete was out and it violated the electronic device rule. But I am not sure.
That's unfortunate. I bet it was a miscommunication and he thought he was viewing the video in an OK place or that it was OK because he was out. Like I said, I think he was the only athlete from his school, so he may not have gotten the lengthy debriefing that most head coaches give their team.