NCAA outdoor schedule

News from the collegiate ranks

Moderators: lonpvh, VaultnGus

User avatar
zipsDIGSpv
PV Nerd
Posts: 115
Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2004 10:51 pm
Expertise: Former College Vaulter, College Coach
Location: Carbondale, IL
Contact:

Re: NCAA outdoor schedule

Unread postby zipsDIGSpv » Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:51 pm

I do like that they still make you jump to qualify to nationals...that it's not a straight descending order list. This evens the playing field and makes you step up and jump when it counts (just like trials). From the looks of it they are pushing to do away with a qualifying meet altogether and there is a good chance they just go to descending order list next year (lets hope not!)

As far as ties go...I've heard that they are going to go to second and third best jumps of the season instead of misses...I don't think it is real clear how they are going to break the ties for the top 48...they better make this crystal clear soon because what a nightmare we will have on our hands in a couple of months
I beat my body and make it my slave
-I Corinthians 9:26-27

User avatar
CowtownPV
PV Follower
Posts: 499
Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2004 8:29 am
Expertise: HS coach
Favorite Vaulter: Bob
Location: Fort Worth, Texas

Re: NCAA outdoor schedule

Unread postby CowtownPV » Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:34 pm

zipsDIGSpv wrote:As far as ties go...I've heard that they are going to go to second and third best jumps of the season instead of misses...I don't think it is real clear how they are going to break the ties for the top 48...they better make this crystal clear soon because what a nightmare we will have on our hands in a couple of months


That sounds better to me. The problem with regionals to me is that someone who has jumped well all year NHs and we don't have our top vaulters at nationals.
Using a qualifying mark list makes people go everywhere to chase marks and somebody who has one high mark at a meet nobody was at gets in. So you can gripe and complain about any system we us. I would like some sort of system where you have 4 regionals but the top two on the national list get a pass to nationals.
Of corse many of the coaches are saying that asking their kids to have a big preformance at conference, regionals and nationals is too much. Wish I had all the answers, then I just write a book and be rich and famous!!
Winners find a way to win, losers find an excuse.

PV Official
PV Nerd
Posts: 79
Joined: Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:29 pm
Expertise: USATF Master Official
World Record Holder?: Renaud Lavillenie
Location: San Jose, CA

Re: NCAA outdoor schedule

Unread postby PV Official » Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:15 pm

From the 2010 NCAA Outdoor Technical Manual:

i. High Jump and the Pole Vault.
(1) A qualifying competition will be contested. There is no automatic qualifying mark. Twelve, based on performance after tie breaking and possibly a jump-off, will qualify from the Preliminary Round competition to the Final Championship Meet. Two competition facilities are strongly preferred in each event.

(2) Flight assignment will be determined by random draw and will be as even in number as possible. When two competition facilities exist, there will be two flights. When there is only one competition facility, there will be one flight. The competing order within each flight will be determined by a random draw.

(3) The raising of the bar to a new height, when two facilities are used, will occur in both pits simultaneously.

(4) A continuous flight of five (‘five-alive’) will be used until there are fewer than nine competitors at a given height in each pit. See Rule 6-4.3. Overall competition will continue until all competitors have attempted and completed their trials for at least one bar height and there are twelve or fewer remaining in the competition, counting both pits.

(5) For two flights on the same pit, or one flight on each of two pits, each will be allowed a flight-specific warm-up period of 60 minutes on the pit being used and have no general warm-up period. The ‘one-hour’ time limit indicated in Rule 6-1.11 will be in effect.

(6) Starting heights and increments shall be determined by the committee approximately four weeks before the competition and will be identical at each Preliminary Round competition site. The following progression is not final.

Women’s High Jump 1.65 1.71 1.76 1.81 1.83 1.85 1.87 1.89 1.91 1.93
Men’s High Jump 2.01 2.06 2.11 2.16 2.18 2.20 2.22 2.24 2.26 2.28

Women’s Pole Vault 3.60 3.75 3.90 3.95 4.00 4.05 4.10 4.15 4.20 4.25
Men’s Pole Vault 4.85 5.00 5.15 5.20 5.25 5.30 5.35 5.40 5.45 5.50


7. Breaking Ties for Qualifying Positions from Preliminary Round of Championship Sites
Running Event – In the case of a tie by reported mark for the final qualifying position to the Final Championship Meet, which increases the number of qualifiers above twelve, the tie will be broken using the procedure outlined in Rule 5-11.8, actual time based on 1/1,000th of a second. If a tie cannot be broken using this method, the competitors who are tied shall run-off to break the tie.

Horizontal Field Event – In the case of a tie by best mark for the final qualifying position to the Final Championship Meet, which increases the number of qualifiers above twelve, the tie will be broken using the procedure outlined in Rule 7-1.5, next best effort in the competition. If a tie cannot be broken using this method, the competitors who are tied shall make one additional attempt to break the tie.

Vertical Field Event – In the case of a tie by place for the final qualifying position to the Final Championship Meet, which increases the number of qualifiers above twelve, the tie will be broken using the jump-off procedure outlined in Rule 7-1.6c.1, normally applied to tie breaking for first place. This jump off will continue until the tied is broken in order to obtain a distinct 12th place.

User avatar
rainbowgirl28
I'm in Charge
Posts: 30435
Joined: Sat Aug 31, 2002 1:59 pm
Expertise: Former College Vaulter, I coach and officiate as life allows
Lifetime Best: 11'6"
Gender: Female
World Record Holder?: Renaud Lavillenie
Favorite Vaulter: Casey Carrigan
Location: A Temperate Island
Contact:

Re: NCAA outdoor schedule

Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Wed Apr 07, 2010 4:58 pm

I liked the way they did it the first year of regionals. I think top 5 from each region went, then they went off descending order list, even if someone NH'd at regionals. The downside is a top vaulter who is injured and not jumping well late in the year could still get in, but the plus side is the very top guys like Colwick, Roth, Jordan Scott, etc know that they are going to nationals and don't have to stress about regionals.

PV Official
PV Nerd
Posts: 79
Joined: Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:29 pm
Expertise: USATF Master Official
World Record Holder?: Renaud Lavillenie
Location: San Jose, CA

Re: NCAA outdoor schedule

Unread postby PV Official » Wed Apr 28, 2010 1:10 pm

A link to the map of West and East regional alignment

http://ustfccca.org/assets/ncaa-info/20 ... gnment.pdf

User avatar
VaultNinja
PV Pro
Posts: 451
Joined: Mon Dec 15, 2003 10:30 pm
Expertise: Extensive
Lifetime Best: 5.60m
Favorite Vaulter: All the Great Ones
Location: Auburn, Ca
Contact:

Re: NCAA outdoor schedule

Unread postby VaultNinja » Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:26 pm

PV Official wrote:A link to the map of West and East regional alignment

http://ustfccca.org/assets/ncaa-info/20 ... gnment.pdf


Wow. Sucks to be a vaulter in the west. Sure it goes both ways with other events but.......Wow.
If someone tries to step on your dreams.... Step on their face.

User avatar
CowtownPV
PV Follower
Posts: 499
Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2004 8:29 am
Expertise: HS coach
Favorite Vaulter: Bob
Location: Fort Worth, Texas

Re: NCAA outdoor schedule

Unread postby CowtownPV » Sun May 02, 2010 9:11 am

West womens pv list
1 Stripling, Katie SR-4 Arkansas 14' 5.5" 4.41m Arkansas Twilight 04/30/10 05/01/10
2 Gergel, Melissa JR-3 Oregon 14' 3.25" 4.35m Stanford Invitational 03/26/10 03/27/10
2 James, Stephanie JR-3 San Diego St. 14' 3.25" 4.35m Cal/Nevada Collegiate Championship 03/27/10 03/30/10
4 Viuf, Katy SR-4 UCLA 14' 2" 4.32m UF Tom Jones Memorial 04/17/10 04/18/10
5 Sutej, Tina SO-2 Arkansas 14' 1.75" 4.31m Arkansas Twilight 04/30/10 05/01/10
6 Brost, Leslie SO-2 North Dakota St. 14' 1.25" 4.30m 52nd Annual Mt. SAC Relays 04/15/10 04/18/10
6 Pena, Tori SR-4 UCLA 14' 1.25" 4.30m Cal/Nevada Collegiate Championship 03/27/10 03/30/10
6 Stefanidi, Katerina SO-2 Stanford 14' 1.25" 4.30m Stanford Invitational 03/26/10 03/27/10
6 Stripling, Katie SR-4 Arkansas 14' 1.25" 4.30m Razorback Spring Invitational 03/27/10 03/29/10
6 Weygandt, Shade FR-1 Texas Tech 14' 1.25" 4.30m Texas Tech Invitational 04/10/10 04/11/10
6 Willer, Natalie JR-3 Nebraska 14' 1.25" 4.30m 2010 Kansas Relays 04/14/10 04/18/10
12 Stately, Brysun SR-4 USC 14' 0" 4.27m USC vs UCLA Dual Meet 05/01/10 05/02/10
13 Clark, Kari SR-4 BYU 13' 11.25" 4.25m Mesa Classic 04/09/10 04/10/10 14 Soceka, Jenny SR-4 Wisconsin 13' 9.75" 4.21m 2010 Florida Relays 04/02/10 04/04/10
15 Masterson, Natasha FR-1 Texas 13' 9.25" 4.20m Michael Johnson Classic 04/17/10 04/18/10
16 Rue, Alicia SR-4 Minnesota 13' 7.75" 4.16m Jim Click Shootout 04/03/10 04/04/10
17 Morgan, Katie SR-4 San Diego St. 13' 7.25" 4.15m Cal/Nevada Collegiate Championship 03/27/10 03/30/10
17 Sutej, Tina SO-2 Arkansas 13' 7.25" 4.15m Penn Relays 04/20/10 04/26/10
19 Sonnenberg, Samantha JR-3 Minnesota 13' 6.25" 4.12m
East womens pv list
Hutson, Kylie SR-4 Indiana State 14' 3.25" 4.35m ISU Pacesetter Invitational 05/01/10 05/01/10
2 Wernke, Stephanie JR-3 Florida State 13' 11.75" 4.26m FSU Seminole Invite 04/09/10 04/11/10
3 Kayes, Carrie SR-4 Akron 13' 11.25" 4.25m Northeast Ohio Quad @ Akron 04/09/10 04/11/10
3 Laurent, Rachel SO-2 LSU 13' 11.25" 4.25m Miami Hurricane Alumni Invitational 04/10/10 04/13/10
5 Neumann, Brianna SR-4 Purdue 13' 9.25" 4.20m Purdue Dave Rankin Invitational 04/16/10 04/17/10
6 Reibold, Jade FR-1 Georgia 13' 8.25" 4.17m Georgia Bulldog Limited 04/17/10 04/18/10
7 Ciambra, Rita JR-3 New Hampshire 13' 5.75" 4.11m Maine, UNH, Bates College 03/27/10 03/27/10
7 DelBovo, Anne SR-4 North Florida 13' 5.75" 4.11m FSU Seminole Invite 04/09/10 04/11/10
9 Fryt, Amy JR-3 Duke 13' 5.25" 4.10m Joe Hilton Carolina Fast Times 04/10/10 04/11/10
9 Maskulinski, Tiffany SR-4 Buffalo 13' 5.25" 4.10m Sea Ray Relays 04/07/10 04/10/10
9 Wright, Joanna JR-3 Georgia Tech 13' 5.25" 4.10m Georgia Tech 3-Way 05/01/10 05/02/10
12 Majester, Kat SR-4 Georgia 13' 4.25" 4.07m Georgia Bulldog Limited 04/17/10 04/18/10
12 Shobe, Vica SR-4 South Carolina 13' 4.25" 4.07m Georgia Bulldog Limited 04/17/10 04/18/10
14 Ahbe, Kelsie FR-1 Indiana 13' 3.75" 4.06m Penn Relays 04/20/10 04/26/10
15 Rodrigue, Katelyn SR-4 LSU 13' 1.75" 4.01m 2010 Clyde Littlefield Texas Relays 03/31/10 04/10/10
16 Duffy, Stephanie JR-3 South Florida 13' 1.5" 4.00m Sea Ray Relays 04/07/10 04/10/10
16 Gengel, Natalie SR-4 Cornell 13' 1.5" 4.00m Cornell vs. Penn 04/17/10 04/17/10
16 Kazuba, Nicole SR-4 William and Mary 13' 1.5" 4.00m 52nd Annual Mt. SAC Relays 04/15/10 04/18/10
16 Llerandi, Ashlyn JR-3 Villanova 13' 1.5" 4.00m 45th Colonial Relays 04/02/10 04/04/10
16 Phillips, Kelly JR-3 Virginia Tech 13' 1.5" 4.00m Liberty University Twilight Qualifier 04/29/10 05/01/10
21 Worthen, Tory FR-1 Princeton 13' 0.25" 3.97m UF Tom Jones Memorial 04/17/10 04/18/10
22 Ciambra, Rita JR-3 New Hampshire 13' 0" 3.96m Northeastern Spring Open 03/20/10 03/20/10
Winners find a way to win, losers find an excuse.

belmore
PV Pro
Posts: 314
Joined: Sun Dec 29, 2002 12:34 am
Location: Austin Tx

Re: NCAA outdoor schedule

Unread postby belmore » Sun May 02, 2010 10:23 pm

This is going to be such an anticlimatical meet. Jump til we have 12 and shut it down. Fortunately for pole vault fans up to that point this meet should be great up to that point. So many great athletes, no regional winner. I still expect great performances to get to that 12, it is just going to feel weird wrapping it up with no victor.
compete and jump safe, have fun


Return to “Pole Vault - College”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests