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this is really bugging me
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:20 pm
by MillerTime
http://www.recordonline.com/archive/200 ... /esg11.htm
13'4 was the best in the united states last year?? is this a misprint? thats the division that im going into this year JC DIII, and my PR is 13 feet. i consider myself a "pretty shitty" vaulter compared to most people, i got like 11th place in LEAGUES in high school, didnt make it to districts, didnt make it to states, etc. i was the 3rd best vaulter at my high school, and the best boy at my school got 6th in leagues (with a 13' jump). he didnt make it to distcicts, states, etc. 13'4 wouldnt have even qualified for districts in high school, let alone states or even nationals! how does 13'4 win a national college meet? someone tell me this is a misprint.
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:14 pm
by ashcraftpv
I don't know how JUCO makes their divisions, but DIII is the smallest division. I had one of my former vaulters in HS make it to the DIII nationals the last 2 years, but he only has a PR of 12'. The schools that belong to JUCO DIII are VERY small and in turn have very small teams. I think that they are great, as they give those kids who normally wouldn't ge the chance to continue competing after HS another chance to compete for a couple more years.
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 10:08 pm
by VaultMarq26
you are so down on yourself....you have an oppoutunity to thrive at this level...jump on it
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 11:28 pm
by MillerTime
ashcraftpv wrote:I don't know how JUCO makes their divisions, but DIII is the smallest division. I had one of my former vaulters in HS make it to the DIII nationals the last 2 years, but he only has a PR of 12'. The schools that belong to JUCO DIII are VERY small and in turn have very small teams. I think that they are great, as they give those kids who normally wouldn't ge the chance to continue competing after HS another chance to compete for a couple more years.
ok i see, i see. There seems to be pretty many community colleges in our league though, i just couldnt see how a boy who barely made it to the post-season in highschool, could win a college national championship jumping the same height. im excited though, i hope i make it to nationals. our school doesnt have a pole vault pit though, so i probably wont improve much. either next year, or 2007, ill be transferring to a ncaa DII school. i was looking around, and to qualify for states, you only need to jump 13' in that division, I dont know what i had to jump in high school to qualify for states, but districts was 13'6. it amazes me how much easier college is than high school, seems like D1 teams are the only ones better than high school teams.
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 11:37 pm
by VaultMarq26
MillerTime wrote: it amazes me how much easier college is than high school, seems like D1 teams are the only ones better than high school teams.
You would be suprised about a lot of DIII schools.....1 through 3 has a bunch of solid vaulters
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 12:36 am
by SKOT
here are all the best jumps from Junior College atheletes outdoors this year. there are 7 people over 16' and one over 17'. there is competition at whatever level you are looking at.
http://www.vaultworld.com/vaultngus/P_L ... ollJC.html
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 6:14 pm
by MillerTime
thats JC division 1. division 3 nationals was won at 13'4 last year.
i didnt mean all but D1 were worse than high school teams, just that its easier to qualify than in high school. for example: to make it to the pennsylvania NCAA division 2 State meet, you must clear 13', to make it to my high school districts meet (before states) you had to clear 13'6. maybe i just had a really tough district or something in high school.
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:05 pm
by AVC Coach
Those qualifying standards make it seem as though if you can spell pole vault in high school you pretty much have a chance to vault in college somewhere.
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:38 pm
by VaultMarq26
13'6" is not considered a "tough" height in high school in most states.......i am not demeening what you personally have accomplished, but I think your beliefs on pole vault have little basis on fact
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 11:09 am
by MillerTime
13'6 is tough when youve only vaulted 1 year in high school, and your school has very limited poles. My point is, its 5 times easier to qualify in a huge college D2 school with 20,000 kids, than it is to qualify in a small high-school school that has less than 1,500 kids. and thats funny to me.
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 11:21 am
by VaultMarq26
13'6 in one year.......that is really solid.....are you planning on transferring to a 4 year university after junior college.....cause if you keep improving you sould be able to be competative at the university level
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 10:47 pm
by MillerTime
VaultMarq26 wrote:13'6 in one year.......that is really solid.....are you planning on transferring to a 4 year university after junior college.....cause if you keep improving you sould be able to be competative at the university level
i didnt jump 13'6, thats just what i had to jump to qualify for districts in high school. i only jumped 12'6 in a meet, but over the summer we kinda had a "pole vault party" at the school, i was just screwin around on a nice 125 pole. (i weigh around 135) we had the bungee at 16 feet, we were just tryin to tap it. then coach put the bar up at 13 and i got it on my first try, but then i had to leave for work before i could try to go higher. i know i could have though. and i might transfer to a 4-year school next year, ( if not next year, definitally after im done with the JC) but its a D2 school. D1 schools are too expensive.
