Hugging the pole.....

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Hugging the pole.....

Unread postby jrobertson62 » Sun Mar 05, 2017 1:24 pm

My daughter is an 11' pole vaulter as a junior in high school.....but, she has a bad habit of collapsing her left arm on take off and "hugging" the pole. Does anyone have any suggestions/drills to correct this? Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: Hugging the pole.....

Unread postby DLM » Sun Mar 05, 2017 9:53 pm

Is there any one, coach,team mate that knows how to do push plants. I believe that if she were to do those she would learn to maintain space between herself and the pole, as well as good body position at takeoff, and become aware of the forces required through the shoulders,trunk,hips,and trail leg. Just a thought.

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Re: Hugging the pole.....

Unread postby Rhino » Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:12 pm

I'm not sure maintaining space with the lower arm should be the goal here. You see pictures of Bubka with a straight bottom arm, but he has 5 meters of pole in front of him and a lower angle between the pole and the ground. Hold lower and have a higher angle, and your lower arm will necessarily be bent on takeoff. Taking off under makes the lower arm bend more, and must be avoided.
I liked the way Altius described the feeling of a proper plant, upward springing with the top hand reaching high and presenting a rock-hard line from the top hand to the toe of the trail leg. I hope I haven't misrepresented his intent. Pressing with the lower arm will leave you in danger of finding yourself in the "deadly L" position.
Being under on takeoff is a prime suspect when the pole is too close to the forehead.

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Re: Hugging the pole.....

Unread postby DLM » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:52 pm

I would not disagree with you how ever there is no indication that she is under and a 11 foot jumper should be high enough on a pole to create space. push plants done right give the vaulter the opportunity to feel that rock hard line that you are talking about. if she is given the opportunity to feel the proper position than she can try to achieve that on the runway. Proper push plants do not and should not teach a locked out bottom arm.

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Re: Hugging the pole.....

Unread postby jrobertson62 » Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:06 pm

Thank you for the feedback. I did talk to a coach from a another school who understands what a push plant is......she is going to work on that when our snow melts. I did wonder if she is too far under the pole when she takes off. If I understand correctly she should should tall with er top hand straight up when she plants and takes off....sorry if I sound ignorant about this.

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Re: Hugging the pole.....

Unread postby DLM » Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:49 pm

I totally understand, the suggestion that a gave you is just one of may drills that will help jumpers. But the advice is based on the assumption that other aspects of her run and takeoff are right or at least close. and that she is on the correct pole for her power and weight. yes you are right her top hand should be high and (straight upper arm) over her head and both her head and upper hand should be over her jump leg at takeoff. I wish her all the best and be safe.


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