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AirStryke.... I have watched this forum for years and never had the urge to respond to anybody until now. First of all, I understand what you're saying, and I agree with you because (to some extent) you're right, but this method is unsafe and should not be used until the vaulter has extreme experience.

While we saw in 2009 that the world's best vaulters can start on big poles and have extremely effective jumps (Hooker 5.90m on the second jump of the day and no warm-up for the WC Title), that doesn't mean that our young vaulters should try this technique. I do agree that the mentality down the runway should be such that the vaulter CAN start on his/her PR poles, but I do not believe that necessitates this action.

Please, youngsters, don't think you need to start on your biggest poles in practice and/or meets!

PVstorm84 wrote:First of all, I understand what you're saying, and I agree with you because (to some extent) you're right, but this method is unsafe and should not be used until the vaulter has extreme experience.

While we saw in 2009 that the world's best vaulters can start on big poles and have extremely effective jumps (Hooker 5.90m on the second jump of the day and no warm-up for the WC Title), that doesn't mean that our young vaulters should try this technique. I do agree that the mentality down the runway should be such that the vaulter CAN start on his/her PR poles, but I do not believe that necessitates this action.

Please, youngsters, don't think you need to start on your biggest poles in practice and/or meets!

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PRs often come under great circumstances, tailwind, fresh legs, fast surface, lots of adrenaline etc. To be able to get right back on that pole at the next workout or meet seems hard to me.

Jump on the right pole.

Scott Huffman's best jump, by far, of his career and his AR were on his small poles he rarely jumped on in meets since he left his regular series of poles at home since he'd been jumping poorly and didn't think he'd need them. Those were the right pole that day. If he was on his "big poles", he probably would've had another bad day.

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Jump on the right pole...

90% of the time the "right" pole is/was one softer than the one you are jumping on.

that included, Bubka, Tully, Bell, Gatallin... etc...

how many times do you or your vaulter have a great vault.. 30cm above the bar and go to the next pole.. don't have the "pole speed" and can't clear 10cm..or 5cm higher!!!!!!

the vault should "feel" easy ... and feel like IF you really "got all of it" or had the next pole "i would really jump high!" that is when you were on the right pole..

that is when you "stay behind the cord" and swing fast to vertical-and off the pole.

dj

Jump with the appropriate pole and the appropriate grip!

If you're on that raised, fast runway- skip the small poles. Warming up and grabbing those small poles is like checking under the tree at Christmas only to find no presents... I coached three kids who jumped on big poles in warm-ups and got all thier x-mas gifts. That's all im saying'

-keg

achtungpv wrote:Jump on the right pole.

Scott Huffman's best jump, by far, of his career and his AR were on his small poles he rarely jumped on in meets since he left his regular series of poles at home since he'd been jumping poorly and didn't think he'd need them. Those were the right pole that day. If he was on his "big poles", he probably would've had another bad day.

One of the best pieces of advice I ever received was that, the night before a major meet, I should take the smallest pole out of my bag, hold it in my hands and think, “I can win this meet on this pole.”

You have to get PAST the bar as well as OVER it.

As you increase the stiffness of the pole you increase the potential for height. Your mass is the same but the pole has more "throw". This potential comes with a trade off, less distance. All the height in the world does nothing for you if you knock the bar off on the way down.

Besides, its a lot more fun to land in the big fluffy thing than the box.

If I'm not mistaken there was a 5.65m vaulter in the mid 80's named "Tom Hintenhaus", not sure if I got the spelling right, who would vault at his PR heights with the standards set on "0". Not sure if this is true or not, just heard a story about it from a Finnish friend of mine named George who witnessed it firsthand. Anyone know of this Hintenhaus?

In any case, that was before those IAAF flasche's came in and changed the rules, but only enough to the point where Hooker was able to jump at the WR indoors in Doha with his standards on 25cm!!! I think he's on the "big poles = big bars" method. Allegedly some of his practice sessions involve mental tests where he starts the session with the bar on 5.80m for his first trip down the runway from full approach and tries to clear it on the pole he would normally be on in a meet with the bar at that height. (I'm guessing 5.20m 11.4 or so). Only advisable if you throw down a Dan Pfaff "C" warmup underneath the bleachers beforehand to get your mind right! Anyone know that drill?!

Again, not advisable to high school or college kids, right?! But this has its merit, I must say.

As my good friend Father Time once said, "A correre e cagare ci si immerda i garretti."

Translation: Only real men land on the slant of the pit.

If you don't get stood up at least twice you're not trying hard enough.
Does Borges jump on small poles? No. He only has three. Big, Giant, and Viva LaBorges. Saw it in Jock-grim.

#mindblown