Re: Timing of the PULL
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:28 pm
In an ideal vault, the pull should begin as soon as the takeoff toe leaves the ground, meaning "conscious effort" should begin slightly before that.
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PVDaddy wrote:Walrus, would you mind backing your position with the rational behind it?
PVDaddy wrote:PVSTUDENT, UNDER THE IDEAL CONDITIONS OF A PERFECT RUN UP, PLANT, FREE TAKE OFF, PENETRATION AND SWING WHEN WOULD BE THE IDEAL TIME FOR A VAULTER TO UTILIZE A PULLING ACTION AGAINST THE POLE TO ELEVATE THE HIPS INTO INVERSION? Also,just to eliminate any other variable you will try to hide behind, let's assume a grip height of 15 ft. or more. Oh and do please provide your rational!
The swing starts as the plant/takeoff ends...
Re the above statement. This is the reason I am not going to play games and reply! I re-interate I'm not interested because your statement as quoted shows any response will be a waste of my effort and time.
PVDaddy wrote: I understand PVstudent, Your not responding, because I have defeated your poor logic and have done it in a very decisive manner! You are left speachless and defeated! It is you who was crapping in the pole vault nest from the beginning.
... Many of you experts even swallowed this myth up like Fish, hook line and Sinker! The sad thing is in the process you have hurt many minnows just trying to learn to swim. NOT ANYMORE! THE WICKED EARLY PULL WITCH IS DEAD! THE JIG OR THE GIG PROMOTED FROM RUSSIA AND AUSTRALIA IS OVER FOR GOOD! LOL DEAL WITH IT!
Your posts on the timing of the "lower Arm pull" are unfortunately so confused and misguided as to be yet more incomprehensible twaddle!
It is worth mentioning here that the arrest of the shoulders after the deep penetration
ensures the drive of the hips upwards to the pole, through active unbending of the left
When the vaulter is unbending, the pole also has the highest speed of uncoiling
upwards, therefore, the combination of the pole's carrying capacity and the athlete's
unbending movement generates an accelerated thrust upwards, and by the end of the
unbending movement the centroidal axis reaches the maximum vertical speed
(Bubka's speed reached up to 6 m/s).
An active turn over onto the shoulders should
end when arms come in use in order to stretch the body along the pole. By this
movement the vaulter maintains the speed of the body's thrust upwards One of the
vaulter's tasks during the pull up is keeping the body close to the pole.
In transit to the push the vaulter – apart from the turn left to the pole – uses the
rotation of the pole in the bearing point. With their high upward speed, many great
vaulters, after their right hand releases the pole, are still in the vertical position
Continued acceleration of the last 4 strides is an indication of good skills acquired in
this part of the pole vault (pole drop/plant). The speed of Sergei Bubka shown in his
best vaults continued to grow until the take-off, as follows:
4 strides before take-off: 9.5 m/sec
2 strides before take-off: 9.7 m/secbefore take-off: 9.9 m/sec
before take-off: 9.9 m/sec