Even with that being said Altius, don't think for one minute that I did not take notice long ago in regards to how you do not teach your vaulters how or when to pull. I picked that up from you many, many moons ago! What I gathered then, is that you put them on a rope, a high bar, or any number of other training devices and let them figure it out for themselves.You let them learn it intuitively. I believe part of that was because you were not sure yourself, when the ideal time to pull under the ideal plant and take off was? Many of your past comments bare that out, especially based on some about the old timers, the ski trip and the infinite pole series? In that, you like Agapit, were advocating an early pull. Were most of your high caliber coaches you trained with suggesting that under ideal conditions? Certainly if you spent that much time with them, it was the subject of discussion? I believe another part of your rational for this is that you felt that if you instructed them on when to pull it would hinder them from focusing on all important elements ,such as swinging, or learning how to make adaptations in less than ideal conditions? I agree with that rational. But, It would be a mistake to just focus on any one aspect of the vault for that matter! But I do not intend to put words in your mouth?
That does not mean that we as coaches should not try to determine when is the appropriate time to pull and to make certain are vaulter understand when under ideal conditions, if you believe a pulling effort through both shoulders offers an advantage to raising the hips? I believe it does. With all of the confusion on the subject here, it took me four years of intense study and thought to determine when that should occur for myself? In fact, I clearly gave my rational for that with 6 major points under my thread "The timing of the Pull". I should have made 7 points, because what I failed to mention was that the motion of re-extending the arms upward and yes partially forward, with the pole, when the hands are over the head while coming out of the "full body coil' position of reverse-C, naturally, seamlessly and here too, SYMBIOTICALLY assist in the acceleration and force of the pull, at the perfect moment and position. Agapits "Continuous Chain of Motion" should never be disrupted. Just as the pull perfectly blends with and assist the push toward the pit. I believe it is our jobs as coaches to make CERTAIN our vaulters know and visualize that chain and see every link and especially KNOW, the order of the links. However,these links are NEVER to be visualized as being individuals, but are in fact interwoven into one necklace, were it is impossible to see were one begins or ends.
Unfortunately old son, that single sentence of yours betrays the fact that you do not have the slightest idea of what you are talking about -the fact that pole bends to the left or the right has nothing to do with the shortening of the chord -the biomechanical pole. Perhaps KirkB can explain it nicely to you in words of one syllable
Altius, there was a very specific reason I made note of why the severe bend of the Flexible pole, either to the right or the left also changed the game of vaulting? It did for at least 2 very important reasons. Can you name them?
I will buy, beg, borrow or rob another copy of your book to answer your question in chapter 7 if you will answer it? I borrowed it to someone and they never returned it, but, I'm quite certain your Ally from Canada is eager to beat me to it anyway?
The reason why I - and I suspect most other folk who post on PVP - am an infinitely better coach than you, is that I have learned from the best and I apply what I have learned in a reflective and critical manner. So for us every training session is a learning experience.
I did not or do have the luxury of learning first hand from Petrov, Etc. but you are sadly mistaken by assuming that I do not apply what I have leaned in a reflective and critical manner or that every training session is Not also a learning experience for us all!